Thursday, March 19, 2020

CIRA International seeks but cant find; sinful human nature?

In answer to the video "Adam, Eve, Satan and The Fall in the Quran - The Islamic Original Sin Dilemma"

So were do these Bible loving Christians get their idea of mankind's sinful curse? Certainly not from the HB, and especially not in the account of creation.

There are different types of sin in the Torah:

Pesha - An intentional sin, committed in deliberate defiance of God
Ovon - A sin of lust or uncontrollable emotion, done knowingly but not done to defy God;
Cheit - An unintentional sin, the word comes from an arrow that misses its target. The result may have ramifications, but the act was not done with malice aforethought.

Most of the time they are defined through context.

The sin commited by Adam and Eve was cheit, because it was neither a pesha nor an ovon. God then gave them the opportunity to repent: he asked Adam "Where are you?" God knows all things so his intention was to give Adam an opportunity to admit what he had done wrong, which they didnt: Eve blamed the serpent and Adam blamed Eve.

God doesnt punish anyone immediately after eating from the tree, because it was a cheit type of "sin" or mistake as seen from its use in Judges20:16. It is after the immature finger pointing and refusal to take responsibility and repent that God sends everyone out of the garden meaning what really caused their banishement was their stubborness and refusal to repent, otherwise they would have been sent away right after eating from the tree. Therefore the real sin was not eating the forbidden fruit (cheit, mistake) rather it was the fact of not taking responsibility and refusal to repent.

Then God curses the serpent with "arur atah" which is never used next when He addresses Adam and Eve. God tells them "arurah ha'adamah", cursed is the earth/ground. This speaks of the earth/ground that Adam will have to work - but God does not curse Adam nor Eve.

This is the major point lost by Christians, God did not curse (arur) Adam nor Eve by causing them to unwillingly inherit a sinful nature to their descendants; they were punished (not cursed = arur) with the pain from childbirth, subjugation of women to men, and having to work for food. This has nothing to do with sin or cursing man with a sinful nature.

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